New here, feeling lost

Hello,

I am new here, and after reading some of the other threads, I feel like a fraud, as so many people are having a much worse time than me.

However, I really feel like I need to get some of this out, as I cant help feeling, trapped, resentful, and guilty all at the same time.

My Mum is 88, and until last year was really independent, travelling across the country by train to visit her cousins and my younger sister. However, all that changed when mums hip got worse and worse. Her GP initially tod her that she was simply ā€œToo oldā€ to have a hip replacement. After a few more months, her condition got worse and worse, so I accompanied her to her heart appointment, and said, there must be something they can do, please refer her. A lot of pushing and waiting it turns out that she is not ā€œToo oldā€ and we have finally got her an appointment for the op soon. But in that timeframe, her mobility has become almost non existent, she can just about get to the toilet.

I have managed to get her a stair lift installed (that was a battle too), and a pendant alarm.

The problem is, I am expected to do more and more for her, and its getting a bit much. I know she is constantly in a lot of pain, but she is really hard work, and doesn’t help me to help her. I do her shopping, take her to all her medical appointments, get her prescriptions, pay her bills etc. Taking her anywhere is exhausting, she can hardly walk, and lifting her wheelchair in and out of the car is difficult.

She wont let me change her pharmacy (I live 11 miles from her, and her pharmacy is not on my route, its in the very busy town centre. She insists on being taken to the back, as she panics about her money (she doesn’t do online, and always wants to pay for stuff in cash).

I have 2 surviving sisters. One lives 150 miles away, and the other actually lives 5 miles from my mum, but wont do anything, apart from ring my mum a couple of times a week. She said it would cost her Ā£10 on the buses, as she doesn’t drive. She also has 5 offspring, who do very little, and don’t visit much either. One is being Mums cleaner for cash, but my mum wont ask her to do much. Last time I was there, Mum said to me and my daughter (my daughter is amazing, and does help out a lot, but is moving away very soon – I told her she should, its not fair on her either) ā€œthe microwave needs cleaningā€ and gave us a hard stare! My daughter said ā€œwell you could ask Sarah to do it next time she’s cleaningā€.. and suddenly we are the bad guys. Tis, after my daughter had washed Mums feet and clipped her toenails.

Other times, we have arrived at Mums house and someone else has been there, and made themselves tea. When they asked if Mum would like one, her reply is ā€œOh, don’t worry , I’ll get onbe of these two to make me oneā€

I work 3 days a week, which I only started doing 6 months ago. I have worked full time all my adult life, as well as being a single mum for a lot of it, and was sooo looking forward to retiring and having some time for me. I cant see that happening now. I got married again last year, and my poor husband must be so fed up. We’ve been unable to plan anything as we simply did not know when Mums appointment would happen. I don’t known whats going to happen when she comes out of hospital, I doubt I will get much help. Im hoping ,my younger sister will come up for a while. My mum lives in a 1 bed flat, and I don’t know how she is going to be cared for overnight post operatively, as she now has a massive recliner (only chair she can use), which means we cant use the put you up bed down.

Sorry, this is rambling, my mind is all over the place, I feel lost.

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Welcome to the forum. Can I ask how old you are?

My mum was very disabled and for years assumed I would do everything she couldn’t. Only when I had cancer and then two knee replacements did she finally accept that I couldn’t, wouldn’t be able to do much for her ever again. Her choice was either to accept carers, or move into residential care.
Now is the time for mum to have a Needs Assessment from Social Services, and you, a Carers Assessment.

Do you have Power of Attorney, or manage mum’s money as her DWP Appointee.

Is mum getting Attendance Allowance?

No one can be forced to care, not even a husband for a wife, and so you have an equal right as your other sisters to choose not to care! On the verge of a breakdown I had counselling looking specifically at how I was being pulled in all directions, with no time left for me. It was life changing!

As you are newly married, don’t let mum spoil your lives. We cared for all 4 parents for a while, and promised ourselves ā€œwhen we are free..ā€ but my husband died of a massive heart attack at the age of 58, so all our dreams gone forever.

Mum is now paying the price for a long life. Don’t let it ruin yours.

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Hi @RootyTooty

Goodness, this all sounds very stressful.

The ā€˜don’t worry my daughter and granddaughter will do everything’ argument is commonly reported by people who join the forum, so you are amongst people who understand what this is like.

It’s really important that the hospital knows your Mum lives alone and there’s no space for anyone to sleep overnight. They will have to keep her in a little longer post operatively.

It’s worth also pushing for her to have a rehab bed afterwards- this could be in a rehab place or a care home that has beds available for this. This will take the pressure of you and give her the best chance of regaining her mobility.

For the best outcome she needs to be doing physio exercises now in preparation for her op.

Arthritis UK has lots of advice regarding hip replacements. They have pre-op exercises, your Mum may manage the easier ones.

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Welcome to the forum @RootyTooty (nice name! :wink: )

I’m really glad you’re reaching out and posted. You are NOT a fraud, hon! Every person here has a painful story and your is just as important, meaningful and needing support as anyone elses..many of us have been here for a while so we can tell you that everyone here has BIG empathy, can giggle with dark gallows humour and will support you. You’re not alone. Several members have similar experiences to what you’ve shared.

ALL your feelings are completely normal - I’d add rage, frustration, sadness, exhausted and many others alongside the ones you’ve shared.

You’ve done SO well to get so much done already - geez wow! Stairlift, pendant alarm, getting an op sorted for her contrary to what you were told - that’s a LOT of pushing and talking - we all know what that’s like here!!

Your Mum sounds like she was a very independent before her hip got worse. I’m guessing she’s a strong character and used to doing things her way if she’s managed to stay well and travelling ā€˜till last year…I’ mean that’s great…but it also means she’s got a lot of expectations, in addition to losing her independence…Can I just say this Needs and wishes are two very different things. She’s not resetting her expectations, instead you’re being expected to be her arms and legs, and meet her standards and wishes….not needs.

May be you did too good a job getting things sorted and becoming the Goto daughter because you did things so well!!?? As @bowlingbun has said you cannot be forced to do everything. It’s hard to set the line in the sand but since no one else is looking out for your sanity, energy and needs I’d advise taking a step back and considering what you want and choose to do and what you won’t do, and set the line now

@Melly1 has shared some really important advice - there are rehab places where trained professionals need to help your Mum get mobile again.

I’d suggest some psych 1-0-1 ideas like - ā€œMum, let’s optimise how you recover for the surgery so that you can get well enough to do what you love doing, like travelling and socialising and doing things how YOU want them doneā€ Of course that means she needs proper support and help and you can’t do what experts can do :wink:

Congratulations on your marriage! I’m glad you have some emotional support. It’s lovely that your daughter is wanting to support…but I’m also glad for her that she’s moving away so she’s doing her own thing too..I thing….maybe a chiropodist can come and do your Mum’s feet (another trained expert to avoid ingrowing toe nails!)

You’re not rambling!

Feel free to ignore anything I’ve shared - I don’t know the relationship you and your Mum have..but if your siblings aren’t doing much and you’ve already done so much - that phrase your Mum used…well it looks like You are the Goto one who’ll get it done…I highly recommend setting your boundaries and teeing your Mum up for post-op rehab care so that you can choose what is right for you and your husband and practice saying NO.

best to start now before things escalate.

We’ve all got lots of experience of hospitalisation that we can share. I’ll leave you with all this here…it’s a lot! Sending you BIG hugs. You’ve been doing amazing! Time to think more about your needs now. xoxo

Geez I wrote a lot - but one last thing….come chat over in Roll Call : https://forum.carersuk.org/t/roll-call-february-2026/128086?u=victoria_1806 lots of general chat thats good to distract yourself :wink:

@RootyTooty Welcome from me. You seem to have a huge amount of ā€˜juggling’ going on so you are most certainly NOT a fraud. You will lots of ideas and support.

HI RootyTooty, (cool name). Been a carer is difficult work. I’ve been one (until recently) for 30+yrs (since I was 11yrs old). There are a lot of things to juggle (i.e. doing shopping, collect prescriptions paying bills), most of the time you end up using your instincts to get things done. In my case, it’s as above plus, cleaning the house, preparing meals etc. Have you spoken to your husband about this situation? Maybe he can help you out. My mum is the same, she’s not very much in to doing stuff online. She always says to me ā€œI can work the TV, DVD player and the microwave but, that’s itā€. As for your sister living near by, ask her why she wont see her or help with her care. Sounds like you need it. Try and look for help via community nursing. That would be what I recommend. Otherwise, you can blow off steam via this forum. It’s helped me to a point. It’s helping me cope mentally. I’ve got admit, my situation is just as bad. Especially since I have not help at all and my friends and family live in Rep. Ireland and mainland Europe. PS, you are NOT a fraud. Don’t beat yourself up.

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Hi,

thank you all for your replies, I really appreciate it. And sorry that you are all struggling too. Bolwlingbun, my deepest sympathy for you losing your husband like that, I hope you are coping okay.

I am 63 years old. We do have a financial POA, but I don’t think it can be invoked very easily,. I think my mum still has enough mental capacity to be in charge of her finances, but her mobility means she cant do the
practical stuff, especially as she wont do online banking, direct debits etc.

My husband said he will help my Mum to get the attendance allowance. this helps in two ways – Mum is less likely to refuse as she is very man orientated, almost to the point on misogyny (strange for a woman with 4 daughters!), and also, he volunteers at a debt advice centre, so has experience of the system. Although, I’m not sure she will agree. We were at hers yesterday evening, and she gave me a cheque for Ā£500. I told her I didn’t want it, and would much rather she put the money into getting the high sided bath swapped out for a walk In shower with grab rails. She immediately said no. Honestly, her hygiene is going downhill. Her feet are covered with dead skin and her hair is really greasy.

I realise that she couldn’t have her bath changed right now, as she only has one bathroom, and cant really leave the flat, but we should be at least planning it.

Also, my niece who is being paid to clean is not very reliable. She just seems to come when she wants, and often doesn’t turn up (time before last she didn’t show up, and my mum goes down the stairlift to unlock the door, so that stayed unlocked all day, and Mum is extremely vulnerable, its not a nice area she lives in. Yesterday she at least told my Mum she wasn’t coming at the last minute, and has rearranged for Friday. Mums flat is looking grubby, and she doesn’t even seem to notice it, which was never like her. The glass of water she had next to her had bits in it, and the mug she had tea from had some crusty stuff on it. If I say anything, I get lambasted.

The way she talks to me is getting worse. I changed the evening I could come over to a different one, and she really got nasty with me, even though I go to hers more than anyone else in the world. I changed it because I had forgotten I was supposed to be doing something with my husband, so went on Monday, rather than Weds.

I feel so emotionally and physically exhausted trying to get Mum to do stuff, and last night I hardly slept because of it.

I have tried asking my middle sister to help out, but she just wont. I am scared of making too much of a deal of it, because I fell out with my eldest sister over her husband some years ago (he was absolutely the worst human being ever, I could tell some shocking things here, but won’t)
and then when she got cancer, he stopped me from seeing her, and I never saw her again, was not even allowed to go to the funeral. I found out later that he had been sending messages from my sisters phone telling me to stay away, when all along she did want to see me, but by this time had become a prisoner to my brother in law. I cant go through anything like that again, and live with constant regret, so wont push things too much.

sorry for going on, I think I’m losing my marbles

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@RootyTooty You are NOT losing your marbles but if it makes you feel better, many if not most of us have felt this way too!!! Cyber hugs. These old people can be so very manipulative….

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There are solutions. My very disabled mum had a bath every morning at home, after the council supplied an Archimedes bath lift, free of charge. Definitely get Attendance Allowance asap. This would be a good time for your husband to become her DWP Appointee. Make a list of everything you do that you’d like sorted, shuffle it into priority order and we’ll deal with them in order of priority. I’ve had 10 careers, all family, over a 50 year period, and now I’m disabled myself. There is a huge amount of experience amongst forum members. When my. Brother was dying in Uruguay I asked about phone calls and had just what I needed to know in 10 minutes! I’m sure that every answer is read by many people too shy to ask a question, so our replies to you will help others too.

No harm in blowing off steam. If it’s any consolation, I’ve practically lost my marbles, among other things :face_with_bags_under_eyes: .

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Hi all,

IVe been trying to get stuff sorted. Attendance allowance is now applied for. I have also got a key safe installed, even though she fought me on this, eventually she agreed. I explained that there might be people coming over after the op, and even the stairlift might be too much in the early days. She still wont consider the shower installation.

Its been a horrible week. My daughter has put on the family group chat that we will need someone to attend my mum in the first few weeks, and it cannot come down to just me and her. Surprisingly, my nieces and nephews actually did put their names against a couple of days each, I just hope they come good, they have not been reliable in the first place.

However, unsurprisingly my middle sister and her husband said they could not commit, and any visiting will be last minute, so would have to be in addition to others. This is not really much good to us, and my daughter and I are really angry and upset with that attitude. Had we done like that, my Mum would be dead by now.

To add to this, my younger sister, who lives 150 miles away, rang me to say "Sarah is getting herself in a state about the rota. What she has to understand is that middle sister is ill, and so not her fault. I told her that I was with Evelyn on this, seems like responsibility is optional for everyone but us two. Anyway, she then messaged me to tell me she knows how I feel because 32 years ago, she moved away, with two babies and got no support from her in-laws. She seems to turn everything into ā€œabout herā€. Anyway, she did say she was going to come up for 3 days, and sort my mums flat out . I said, I was going over on Monday afternoon, as it was already arranged and Mum gets funny if I change arrangements, so I would see her there. Then she replied and said ā€œOh I wont bother then, the whole point is to give you a breakā€ I did tell her that Mum would love to see her, and it would be good if she came, to which she responded ā€œup to youā€ with a shrug emoji. Honestly, I was so upset by this point I didn’t reply. We went to visit friends, and by the time I arrived, younger sister had accused my of blocking her. I so don’t have the emotional energy for it all.

Anyway, she did come, and she did clean my Mums flat, and messaged us to tell us that Mum was peaceful and content. Must just be us then?

She went home on Weds and then we get a message to tell us she was still ill (shes been off work since before Christmas), and that she doesn’t want to talk to us unless its on an need to know basis, she is so upset and anxious about Mum /(and we are not???).

So, there we have it. Both sisters too unwell to help, what about us? Sarah and I are so burned out, this has been happening for the last year.

Younger sister will come up again no doubt, but when it suits her, which does not help with the planning, or to let us have anything like a life

Sorry, I know this is a massive moan, but my nerves are shredded, and writing it down may help

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Your mum should have FREE post op care for 6 weeks. A Needs Assessment to see how much care she needs, that will be free if she has under Ā£23,000. Stop doing so much, and get others to do what you have been doing. To some extent you get the treatment you are prepared to put up with. if siblings won’t help, fine, but that does NOT mean you have to do it instead.

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@RootyTooty, a great way to blow off steam. Also, try keeping a diary. I’ve done so for years.

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Thank you for your replies.

Mum has £50,000 in savings, so she wont get anything free unfortunately.

I have tried and tried to get my sisters to help, but they just wont, and my younger sister can be quite vicious (verbally), which I do not have the energy for at this point. I am trying to get other help, but it is hard because of mums resistance, and also because I just keep getting passed to other people, or fobbed off.

Mum has had her hip replacement and is now back home. I told her to make the medical team aware that she lives alone, and no one can stay with her in her one bed flat, as there is no room at all. She said she would, but then I heard her on the phone to my middle sister telling her that she had told the staff that she had someone to care for her at home, so that they would let her leave. I could cry.

I did speak to the physio and said I did not feel confident that she would leave after one night, but the physio said she was happpy with Mums mobility. I asked about care at home (mentioned reablement specifically) and she said she would contactg them. I havent heard anything, so I will ring her again today.

When we went to pick her up, she said she felt ill, but didn’t want to tell the staff, again, cos she wanted to go home. Driving her back she was sick all over the inside of my car, and then started shouting at me. It was a horrible journey, especially as I have Emetophobia, and was almost sick myself.

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Hello,

When did your mum come out of hospital , you said she broke her hip. Can she walk ,could she walk when she came out of hospital.

Before she came out of hospital a care package should have been done for mum.So not sending her home with a care package is a failed discharge. But if she is going round tell people that she does not need any help that you will do it all I don’t know how you will go on .but she should not be doing this. You need to tell her not to do because you cannot do it all. I would ring the doctors tell them that your mum has come out of hospital with no care package because she keeps telling people she doesn’t need help ,say to them she does need help you cannot do it.you need an urgent reablement package for home.

Long story 2024 I broke 6 bones .i spent 4 months in hospital .when I came home I could not walk at all . The hospital sorted out everything .i had 4 carers 4 times a day. I had a key safe fitted ,and I had a telecare pendant so if I needed help falling etc.i could press it. now this is called reablement 6 weeks free care. Now I have found out lots during the past 12 months . I will tell you what I’ve found out. Reablement is not necessarily 6 weeks it can be longer .it is classed as short term . But it’s for as long as it takes the person to be how they were before they had the accident. now don’t fill a financial form in and don’t tell them how much money she has . You ring the doctors you get the reablement and you don’t pay or fill financial form in. If she is still the same after 6 weeks and cannot do things due to her accident. It depends how she is health wise because I don’t know . You could ask for a continued care assessement based on your mums health needs due to her physical accident . Because if she is not able to do things after the 6 weeks that is because of her accident.

I am going through it all at the moment. Continued health care is supposed to follow on from after the 6 weeks reablement or they give her longer reablement. When social workers come and they are on about financial assessment and how much money you have you don’t tell them ,if they know you have money they will try and force you to pay. You ask for the 6 weeks reablement package free. after about four weeks see how your mum is . If she is still bad cannot do things for herself cook, wash, clean , etc. this is due to an accident which is medical not social. They will ask you for all the financial things assessement .if still needs care you say no. I want a continued health care assessment for my mums health needs due to her physical health (use the words health and physical).if they say no or she’s not bad enough etc . And that you need to fill a financial form in or for a continued healthcare assessment no you don’t. All they want to know is how much money you have they don’t care about anything else at this time you don’t tell them .if they won’t do one. Ring your local CAB up and tell them. They will write to the council for one. Now I have read that from the time you put in for a continued healthcare assessment ,you do the checklist and if she passes that.

Then she has an assessment and decision comes . If she gets it good , if not .the law state in the national framework of continued healthcare and nursing care that from the time it’s put in for to The time of the final decision the NHS have a duty of care to pay the costs . Yet councils force people to pay if they fail, and yet the law states otherwise. Your mum is entitled to enablement 6 weeks care free. If she is still bad you say she needs longer reablement and she can have longer . I don’t know if she has other health related conditions.

People think continued healthcare is for end of life ,and it’s not it’s for people who have an illness ,disability or had an accident .so it is health related not social.it is all on the caretobedifferent.co.uk Website.all about reablement all about continued health care. All the national framework for continued health care and nursing care.read it all. The getting started all articles on discharge hospital etc.

Read the ones that apply to you. Anything a social worker tells you . Either research it or come on here and ask if it is true before you answer. I’ve not met one that hasn’t lied to me. But I never did what any of them said.because I knew they were lieing .they are all being reported.

you have to fight for everything I’ve learnt that the last 20 months. Read , get the info and then fight for it.

All the people hospital, social workers, benefits they have all been reported and are being investigated .At least a kind man at the hospital sorted out my care package for home ,my key safe, and my telecare .but since then it’s been a battle. I’ve not been aloud to relax and recover .

Ring your local citizens advice number it will be on the internet type in Citizens advice bureau and where you live and ring them. Talk to them they will help.

Ring doctors tell them your mum needs reablement care package for home. Tell them she has told people at the hospital she doesn’t need any help and she does you cannot cope.tell them it’s urgent.

Tell you mum to please not tell people she does not need any help, say to her it’s obvious you do mum you have broke your hip.i cannot do it all.

Call a meeting of all your sisters to your mums house.tell them they all need to come.dont tell them why. Just say I’m calling a meeting .then when there all there say.we all need to help ,we all need to do things.i cannot do it all.you cannot leave everything to me or you will make me ill. Please can we sort things out between us . They would not like everything to be left to just one of them ,explain this to them . But call a meeting so you are all there together, not just on a phone . Maybe easier.

also the hospital she came out of you could look on the internet ,put in the hospital name and PALS. There will be a phone number for them .ring the pals at the hospital explain how your mum is that she broke her hip ,that she has been sent home with no home reablement package 6 weeks free care and that it is urgent ask them to help you .they should also sort it out. I’m sure I have read somewhere online .that when someone comes out of hospital say like you mum and they have had a bad accident and need help and care. Whoever is dealing with this .if your mum says to them I don’t need any help. My daughter is going to do it all.they are then supposed to come and ask you if you are going to do all the care for your mum. They should check what she is saying is true. Did anyone ask you ,how mum was going to be cared for at home without a care package. If they did not they should have done. They should then have sorted out a care package because you would have said no I cannot do it all. This is an unsafe discharge.if they have sent your mum home without a care package and not checking that she had care at home.

I live on my own .the hospital sorted out all my care package, my key safe so carers and nurses could get in , and a telecare monitor pendant . All these were sorted before I came home. I was asked about the things ,they gave me a choice of carer agency. I’m sure until all these things were put in place.and a hospital bed was delivered and put in my living room. I heard someone say I would not be released from the hospital. I didn’t like my bed downstairs in my living room at first but now .

I hope that you are ok. I don’t know if what I have wrote will help. I’m no expert but if I can help I will try. Sending love

I’m not an expert I just read a lot and been through a lot these past 20 months. I fell I broke 6 bones . 2 months before I fell ,I was ill also been ill along time the NHS made me ill , they closed ranks and left me to it. That will be my next battle after this. Before I fell my dad who was my best friend passed away ,he was all I had. So now it’s just me. I have a sister but I have nothing to do with her a very bitter ,resentful, twisted person .who has put me through even more since dad passed away and has never done anything to help me only if she has wanted to.

Life is hard tooty you can try what I’ve said .Ring PALS. Read website and get the knowledge.i hope it helps.take care.

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Mum should still have free reablement care for 6 weeks, unless the rules have changed since I last needed them? If mum needs care then she has to use her money to pay for it. She is allowed to pay family, if she wants. It’s her money but now is the time to spend some of it on making herself comfortable at home. The alternative is to pay about Ā£1,000 a week for a care home.

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@bowlingbun, Ā£1000 a week? My mum’s care home in Salford is Ā£1200 - 1500 a week!. Yet, it saddens me that many local councils and health authorities can’t use that money to be cared for at home.

You can get your mums prescriptions delivered ,ring the pharmacy and ask for them to be delivered it is free. If they won’t deliver them .then find another pharmacy that does delivery. I think Superdrug and boots deliver them and sort out your mums prescriptions to come from one of them or a local chemist that will deliver them . Say to mum I cannot do everything you need to be reasonable and help by agreeing to things.say to her it does not matter where her prescriptions come from as long as she gets them each month. Explain getting them delivered is one thing made easier and you need that say I work to. About shopping could she not give you a list of everything she needs. Then could you do an online order to be delivered at mums pick a time slot for when you are going to be there, then all you have to do is go to mums house when you were calling anyway and put the shopping away ,so you don’t have to go shopping aswell. I use Morrisons ,because there is only me. Because you have to spend over Ā£40 plus delivery. And sometimes I don’t need that much. What I do is they come every 2 weeks with my shopping and I just double weekly order.that may help.

Something else I have just found out.i don’t know if councils are different but this is what the care act 2014 .states and my council are not following the care act. 2014 I don’t know if any of them are.

Reablement when you get 6 weeks care it is not just personal care it is inhabitation to. Meaning your house light cleaning , your shopping done ,and your washing.is all included in your reablement package.because your mum cannot do them so they are counted as eligible needs.aswell as personal care. I was lucky that I had some nice carers who did put my washing in and clean my house for me . My shopping they helped me order from Morrisons online and they put it away.

Some did not. But these things when you have eligible needs should not be charged for the Care Act 2014 states this.

But I’ve recently read in the care act 2014 that all these things should be included in all care packages.reablement, care package continued health care.it says it in them all. If the person cannot do them they are classed as eligible needs and they are included in the care . On the caretobedifferent.co.uk website it states habitual care the person needs shopping for it to be cooked, the person needs washing doing so they have clean clothes, and the house needs to be clean because a person needs to live in a clean house ( light cleaning). And they are classed as eligible needs when the person cannot do them.i have reported this to the council ,I don’t know what they have done,I haven’t done that just for myself but for other people. They charged me for someone to do my shopping when I came out of hospital after 4 weeks the social worker did that been told is unlawful. For 3 weeks the carers bless them were getting me bits in between calls because hospital to home who were supposed to come for 6 weeks to help me.guess what never came.

Councils seem to be doing what they want I don’t know if they are allowed to do. Because the Care act 2014. States different.i wrote and told them all this when my complaint went it. If they don’t sort everything I will go to the ombudsman . I will propbably write anyway and tell them so it can all be looked into. For the people who are old and cannot stick up for themselves.

so ring PALS at the hospital she came out off they will sort it.

Ring the citizens advice bureau about other things. Speak to someone if you think you need to know more, ring them back you will speak to someone else.sometimes some no more than others about different things but they have been so kind and helpful to me.

Take care tooty. Sending love

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@bowlingbun Prices have changed incredibly. A quick search shows that the current average is around £1,300 a week - rising to an average of £1,500 for nursing care. Some specialist places are a lot more expensive, obviously.

Ouch. Then I realised mum died 11 years ago….!