Is this domestic abuse?

Hi everyone, my mum (60) and I (32) are currently caring for my grandmother who is 90 with advanced vascular dementia. We have been caring for my grandma for 12 years as her health has declined, she would be in residential or nursing care if not being cared for at home. My grandma is on the palliative care pathway and was recently allocated a CPN by our community mental health team. I myself have autism.

Unfortunately we have recently been suffering harmful and negligent treatment by extended family which I am concerned has veered into domestic abuse. I have notified the police and CPN about this, but I thought I should reach out to see if anyone has any advice or similar experiences.

Our extended family who live half a mile away has recently had a lot of police and social services involvement regarding domestic abuse. This includes my uncle being arrested recently due to serious allegations being made by his wife. Due to a history of domestic abuse we think there may be some truth in her allegations.

Since becoming aware of his family’s turbulent situation, we have agreed to babysit three of my cousins aged 5-9, with my uncle making pre-arranged plans giving the impression this would be very important. This made a change as we have rarely seen the family over the years despite their close proximity, but our main concern has been the welfare of my cousins alongside my grandma.

My uncle also promised to visit himself with adult children. Child safeguarding agreed that we would be a “safe place” for the children amidst the difficulties at home which has been mentioned in council records. My mum said it would be emotionally positive for grandma who is housebound and requires 24/7 care at home. The NHS staff have suggested she is approaching end of life and encouraged us to tell the family to spend time with her while they still can.

On several occasions however, my uncle has simply not turned up to the prearranged visits, instead taking the children to other friends or families households, taking the adult children to other places, or attending to household chores, only telling us this after we had waited in for hours and bought things for the younger children like food and colouring books. This has caused my grandma significant emotional distress and confusion in her childlike mental state, but the arranging of visits and then no showing has become a noticeably repetitive pattern of behaviour. It has come to the point where we have had to firmly stop agreeing to visits due to the risk of repeated emotional harm by this being abandoned unannounced.

We do not think this can be put down to incompetence as he and other family members are able to arrange busy schedules, holidays, business trips and social activities. We have tolerated the lack of commitment for much longer than would be normal because of my grandma’s condition and the benefit the family visits would give to her. I have witnessed it seriously affect my mum’s well-being whilst she has to attend to my grandma’s personal care, medical needs etc.

In 2018 my uncle received a police caution for violent threats towards us, and the detective said he could face prosecution if there was any further such behaviour. While the protecting vulnerable people officers and safeguarding have been involved recently, we are unsure if they are aware of the historic intervention. When I was growing up my uncle was bullying towards my mum as a single parent, so she kept him at arms length for a long time. She has attempted to make a reconnection due to my grandma’s declining health but the same pattern of behaviour has arisen. The police say it is difficult to prove coercive control, but it seems like a manipulative and underhanded way of causing emotional harm.

It has left us feeling that we have been treated in a cruel and degrading way as a vulnerable household, which is upsetting for all of us. It has left us feeling depressed at times that the unpaid caring role has been manipulated, and devastated for my grandma as she was left feeling unwanted. With being autistic the the uncertainty makes me anxious and unsettled.

When another relative was in nursing care with dementia following a stroke the same family members visited them daily, so ignorance cannot explain the selfish and spiteful behaviour.

hi there, @jjarichardson ,welcome to the forum and this is a hard one to know the right answer. I would say yes it is but you need someone to start the safeguarding off for your gran and maybe you need to also put in pova as well. Keep a log of this and speak either to the carers helpline or one of the society’s for demantia as they should be able to give you more help or advice.

Hallo and Welcome
I’m sorry to read you are going through such a difficult time, you, your mother and grandma really do not need this!
You have done the right thing in being firm in saying arranging visits must stop, its far to unsettling for your grandma to keep being let down like this. If the arrangement was made together with Child safe guarding then the authority need to know the agreement is constantly broke.
Sadly little can be done with unreliable relatives. Sometimes they act like they do through fear, confusion and unacceptance of a situation, other times though they are just toxic and always have been, it does seem there has always been a toxicity there with your uncle.
You can not change him all you can do is protect and those you care for from further hurt.

Do speak to the palliative care team, they are there for you and your mother too, explain to them the situation so they at least do not mention other family being present.

Once again sorry you are going through this at what is already a difficult time x

I think between us we could write a book about Unreliable Relatives. Starring role to both my brothers who were always promising to visit my housebound mum, but sometimes a whole year went by without seeing them. Younger brother, after mum died, was desperate to get his hands on his share of the inheritance. Not as much as he’d thought, so sent a nasty note to me, via a solicitor, demanding more. (Mum had changed the will). Shame he couldn’t have cared more about mum than her money. I took his letter to mum’s solicitor and asked him to write a suitable reply. I never saw what he’d written, but never seen brother, nephew or niece since.

The extended family were trying to get money out of the will a few years ago my grandma even became this unwell. The solicitor took it to court. We worry about the recriminations over money once my grandma does eventually pass away so it’s a probably been a good idea to make a police log ahead of this.

The police and CPN both said they would make adult safeguarding referrals, I assume this would be the POVA process.

Predictably my uncle is now claiming he is the victim of abuse and being “prevented” from seeing my grandma, when his own disinterest and cruelty is what led to us asserting these boundaries in the first place.

I’m mortified and appalled that my mum and I are facing working with the NHS to provide palliative care as my grandma nears end stage dementia whilst having to deal with such a toxic and dysfunctional family dynamic.

You may wish to contact this website as they will be able to speak to you regarding what is going on: National Domestic Abuse Helpline - Refuge