Advice re Care for the Carer

Hello - Looking for any advice & tips - keeping it very simple.
My elderly mother-in-law (82) is the carer for her husband (also 82) who suffers from dementia.
She gets some extra help (paid for by them) for carers to come to their house a couple of times a week to help shower her husband and any other chores needed whilst there.
Bottom line is now that the mother in law needs help herself (she is finding things getting too much and that things are just getting on top of her)
Unfortunately we donā€™t live local to them and help as much as we can remotely & visit whenever possible but itā€™s the sort of daily help that the mother in law needs.
Can anyone offer any advice suggestions or ideas please.
Many thanks in advance

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Hi @Ianjul99, welcome to the forum. You can try the carers advice helpline and they give you more information. It would be for your aunt to contact social services and have them to help out.

Hi @Ianjul99 Welcome to the forum! Glad to see youā€™ve joined and posted - youā€™ll find that there are lots of lovely people here who can share their experiences.
If I may, can I ask a few questions so that we can hear more from you and offer best advice possible?
Your MIL sounds like sheā€™s been looking after her husband for a long time given his dementia and that theyā€™re over 80yrs of age - YAY them and especially her.

Has he been suffering dementia for a long time, and how advanced is it - could you share how severe the dementia is. Please donā€™t share if you feel uncomfortable - but understanding his needs is also key to better understand your MILs needs. E.g. Does her husband have behavioural issues, does he need close monitoring or heā€™s able to orient himself within familiar surroundings?
Do they have friends and family closeby?
If sheā€™s been caring for her husband for a long time, Iā€™m thinking that she may have ā€˜helpā€™ organised in terms of how she gets shopping, how she getā€™s a lightbulb fixed or prescriptions picked upā€¦
From what youā€™ve written - ā€˜things are starting to get on top of her nowā€™ makes me think she has a system, a routine and pretty good house-routine-adminā€¦??
Is she very anxious about things right now, or stoically pragmatic?
When you say things are getting on top of her - did she tell you that? Can you share more details? Is she feeling ill, have health issues herself?

All this to say - definitely do as @Michael_1910123 suggests - orient yourself to local services and whatā€™s available for your MIL BUT also
have gentle open conversations with them, over a planned visit over a few days - is my recommendationā€¦
If you can hold space to listen to MILā€™s needs, maybe probe how she ā€˜usuallyā€™ gets shopping, help and support IF anything in her local community, or from neighbours etcā€¦
Write a list of the plumber/electrician/gas/electricity/shopping/pharmacist etc etc and the ā€˜trustedā€™ people they knowā€¦

THEN - you can see if thereā€™s immediate interim additional support you can rally amongst people they already know, asking people for help is not easy for anyone who is older, like them BUT better to see if others they know, can help WHILE you discuss more permanent, bigger changesā€¦

The bigger changes social services etc take time, and a lot of discussion and disruptionā€¦
SO, if you can plan a small trip to START thie conversation, orient yourselves to their routine, thatā€™d be huge first stepā€¦
Just donā€™t expect to do everything in one conversation, they and you need time, space and curious open heartsā€¦
LONG noteā€¦hope something there helps

Oh darn - I shouldā€™ve said - Hellooooo Iā€™m Victoria :wink: I initially helped my Mum care for my dad - he had vascular dementia, bladder cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, Congestive heart failure and a few other issues, incl mobility and general issues with gnarled arthritic hands and feet. He passed in 2020, just after Mum was diagnosed with 2 separate, different cancers. so 16days post his funeral, Mum had surgeries then chemo then radio therapyā€¦I say all that fast cos 2020 was a lotā€¦Iā€™m still caring for Mum but life is a LOT easier these days (touchwood)ā€¦

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Itā€™s really important to look at what the caree NEEDS not what they want. People with advanced dementia will need a team of carers giving round the clock care. The first question I would ask is ā€œcan you go on like this or is it getting too much?ā€ If they want to keep going, ā€œwhat would help.ā€ It might be a shower room, a dishwasher, time to go to WI, anything at all, itā€™s what the carer wants that matters. Not what an outsider wants. Accepting the idea of needing residential care is hard and takes time, but sadly as dementia progresses itā€™s the only option left. Not a sign of failure.

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